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Fed 1:4,5 F=28mm - cleaning.
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Автор:  alexenmoscu [ 16 ноя 2019, 10:48 ]
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Hi all,

Now I’m dealing with a little lens from FSU, lens elements need a clean and aperture has to be cleaned and lubed back, old dry grease everywhere.

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Rear elements came out easily and they are cleaned already.

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But as usual I’m not good with lenses and I’m stuck to access the front lens the aperture mechanism to be cleaned. There are two screws here - next photo - and a retaining ring as shows the previous photo.
Also another hidden screw which hole is located at the focusing thread...

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Any help how to continue will be appreciated :)

Thank you for looking,
Alex

Автор:  alexenmoscu [ 16 ноя 2019, 11:32 ]
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If only the front lens block can come out it will be enough but there are no marks for lens spanner as the rear block, there is thread which suggest that should come out this way... rubber cone and acetone? Anyone has done this lens before?

Автор:  11-й номер [ 16 ноя 2019, 12:49 ]
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ЕМНИП, с этим объективом возился ЧКД vorobaz. Можно вызвать его посредством медиума в лице ЧКД Нетлейкилох. Хотя бы гайд пришлёт.

http://www.marcocavina.com/articoli_fotografici/FED_35_28mm_4,5/00_pag.htm Статья. ССылка в наших обзорах.

И, вроде бы, какие-то части линзоблока завальцованы в нём. То есть их не разобрать, чтобы помыть. Но это не точно, просто старые ветки форума вспоминаю.

Автор:  alexenmoscu [ 16 ноя 2019, 12:54 ]
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Ok... this lens is pretty rare and maybe expensive so before continuing I thought “why don’t I take apart an Industar-22?” Bodies are similar just Fed-35 is smaller.
So I did it and I got everything apart except the rear front lens and aperture system, here I need tools I don’t have yet...
I will start doing the same for the 28mm lens now that i know what to expect...

Автор:  alexenmoscu [ 16 ноя 2019, 12:57 ]
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11-й номер писал(а):
ЕМНИП, с этим объективом возился ЧКД vorobaz. Можно вызвать его посредством медиума в лице ЧКД Нетлейкилох. Хотя бы гайд пришлёт.

Who is this CHKD? :)

Автор:  paolo_cocoa [ 16 ноя 2019, 14:13 ]
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Член Клюба Дальномер

Автор:  alexenmoscu [ 16 ноя 2019, 18:03 ]
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So should I contact Нетлейкилох??
I’m lost in translation :)

Автор:  alexenmoscu [ 16 ноя 2019, 18:08 ]
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I sent him a pm already, thank you!

Автор:  11-й номер [ 16 ноя 2019, 18:15 ]
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В качестве винтажного 28 мм есть же Canon 28/2,8. Чем вас заинтересовал ФЭД-35 (28/4,5)? Просто в коллекцию?

Автор:  alexenmoscu [ 16 ноя 2019, 18:38 ]
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11-й номер писал(а):
В качестве винтажного 28 мм есть же Canon 28/2,8. Чем вас заинтересовал ФЭД-35 (28/4,5)? Просто в коллекцию?

The lens is from a friend, I don't know what he will do with it, probably sell it.

Автор:  alexenmoscu [ 19 ноя 2019, 20:48 ]
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Done! Finally just by myself :)
Lens is mounted back, all lenses surfaces cleaned, aperture tube lubed a bit and two nasty screws head flattened for an smooth aperture movement.

Now shooting/test time!! :)

Автор:  EugeneUa [ 21 ноя 2019, 16:45 ]
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alexenmoscu писал(а):
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Done! Finally just by myself :)
Lens is mounted back, all lenses surfaces cleaned, aperture tube lubed a bit and two nasty screws head flattened for an smooth aperture movement.

Now shooting/test time!! :)



Nice job Alex !
Hope to see results of your test shooting

Автор:  alexenmoscu [ 21 ноя 2019, 17:56 ]
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Thank you!

Now I need to clean a Zorki or Fed camera because I tried in the Leica IIIa and the focus knob ends up in the rangefinder’s windows :O or maybe I just mounted back incorrectly?? But as far as I know it’s a single thread...

Автор:  вьюрок [ 21 ноя 2019, 23:06 ]
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Can you show the result Of your cleaning? Not necessarily applying the film, you can put this lens on any mirrorless. Close-up, mid-range and long-range photos. The usual test photos.

Можете ли вы показать результат вашей уборки? Не обязательно накладывая пленку, можно надеть этот объектив на любой беззеркальный. Фотографии крупным планом, среднего и дальнего радиуса действия. Обычные тестовые фотографии.

Автор:  alexenmoscu [ 22 ноя 2019, 12:08 ]
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I wish I could but I have no mirrorless or digital cameras at all, only film cameras...
Just now I did some test photos with the Leica IIIa and let’s see how they went, It should be tested with a Fed pre-war camera with distance between 28.3-28.5 as I read from Maizenberg.

Автор:  вьюрок [ 22 ноя 2019, 12:29 ]
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alexenmoscu писал(а):
I wish I could but I have no mirrorless or digital cameras at all, only film cameras...
Just now I did some test photos with the Leica IIIa and let’s see how they went, It should be tested with a Fed pre-war camera with distance between 28.3-28.5 as I read from Maizenberg.


Okay, also interested in Your opinion about 1/1000 of the fed-с its complete With the 50/2 lens, I read with interest Your threads on the repair of this set.

Хорошо, также интересует Ваше мнение о 1/1000 на ФЭД-С и его комплектном объективе 50/2, с интересом почитаю Ваши темы о ремонте этого комплекта.

Автор:  alexenmoscu [ 22 ноя 2019, 13:16 ]
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Uhm... I dont recall have been repairing any Fed-C 1/1000sec. with the 50/2 I would like to see how it performs :)
My last article about LTM39 cameras was a Leica IIIa with Elmar 50/3.5 so I will write about it when I'm at home and I find the negative from the tests I did.
So far as I recall I had capping (closing curtain faster than opening curtains) problem at 1/500 and 1/1000. Since it was my first time doing this kind of shutters I just made small turns (1/4th) at a time to adjust both curtains.
I had no light to be able to shoot 1/1000 so I made two shots 1/500 and 1/1000 against the flashlight, what I saw in the negative was the full frame exposed but saying the truth I didn't scan it, if I find the negative I will scan it, if I don't find it I will do new shots, after all I could be wrong of what I saw and the camera has to be adjusted better.
Regarding if this camera can achieve 1/1000secs. I think no, it can't, maybe 1/700secs. the best. Of course I'm new to this cameras and of course I could do it better in the future but my skill is what it's at the moment.
It's like when I did the first Compur shutter more than a year ago, I tried my best then and now I do as the best these days with these old shutters.
More later when I'm at home...

Автор:  alexenmoscu [ 22 ноя 2019, 20:11 ]
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Not good photos, bad film, quick dry...

I guess they are not sharp enough for using a Leica IIIa and not a prewar FED, you people know about this more than me.

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And these are the high speed photo made today, no capping.

1/1000sec.
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1/500sec. That spot at the left is because the rollout sticked during develop, clumsy me :)
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So I will return the camera to the owner and about the lens I have done what I was asked for, clean the lens elements and lube it back, I have no way to test it correctly.

Thank you for looking,
Alex

Автор:  Pahh [ 22 ноя 2019, 20:18 ]
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Nice fotos

offtop not Fed - only FED - Felix Edmundovich Dzerjhinsky https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%94%D0 ... 0%B8%D1%87

Автор:  alexenmoscu [ 22 ноя 2019, 20:22 ]
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Pahh писал(а):
Nice fotos

offtop not Fed - only FED - Felix Edmundovich Dzerjhinsky https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%94%D0 ... 0%B8%D1%87

Thank you and BIG Sorry!!!! Edited and changed!

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